It was 8 o’clock and the Rangers weren’t doing so hot against the Islanders in their NHL pre-season opener, so I switched over to NJN to watch the debate between Doug Forrester and Jon Corzine. This was the first debate between the two candidates for NJ governor.
My impressions:
- Neither guy is that dynamic, but Forrester actually seemed more confident and sure of himself, and I think if someone had never seen Forrester before he would have been more impressive. Corzine seemed to stumble over his words a bit at the beginning, but he improved as the debate went on.
- The debate featured three reporters taking turns asking each candidate a question, allowing the other candidate a rebutal and so forth. Bob Ingle and Michael Aron asked both candidates tough questions. Aron started off right away with Jon Corzine on Carla Katz. Kaitlyn Gurney tossed Corzine three softball questions (on the smoking ban, legalized gay marriage and embryonic stem cell research) while going after Forrester pretty hard, twice, on his political contributions.
- Neither guy likes the New Jersey School Construction Corporation.
- Bob Ingle asked about the bear hunt (both candidates oppose the bear hunt).Correction:Forrester was in favor of the bear hunt. I just remember him making some comment about a family in Sussex county having breakfast with a bear.
- Both candidates are against the Newark Arena.
- Michael Aron asked about a potential disaster at the Oyster Creek Nuclear Reactor, and suprisingly Forrester was to the left of Corzine, opposing re-licensing of the power plant while Mr. Corzine wanted a study of the plant’s safety.
- Both sides tried to play up their property tax plans while attacking the other guy’s plan, but neither side won that argument. As I’ve said before, both plans stink.
- Every time Forrester mentioned Norcross, McGreevey, Torricelli and Kushner, Mr. Corzine would respond with George Bush, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.
- Overall, the tone was pretty civil. I was afraid Forrester would try some gimic like holding up a piece of paper with a no tax pledge and carry it over to Corzine for his signature.
I don’t believe in scoring these things like a high school debate. Each candidate goes into a debate needing to achieve something and as long as you don’t make a major gaffe then you really can’t lose. Forrester is trailing by at least 10 points and my gut feeling is he got much more out of this debate than Jon Corzine, though certainly not enough to close the gap.
I would have mentioned the democrat corruption a lot more than Forrester did. There was a question from Bob Ingle about the Kelo supreme court decision and the use of eminent domain to seize private property. Forrester should have mentioned that the beneficiaries of eminent domain seizures are usually politically connected developers and power brokers, and two of the more controversial land seizure projects in New Jersey, Petty’s Island and Kramer Hill in Camden can both be linked to George Norcross.
I think the next debate will be one of the state sponsored debates featuring the third party candidates.
UPDATE: Sharon at Center of NJ life thinks Corzine got spanked [link]. She’s a Corzine supporter, thought he had only two good minutes out of the whole hour.
Bob at eCache thought it was a draw, also noting how totally uncomfortable Corzine was on stage [link].
Enlighten-NewJersey scored it Forrester by a knockout, noting how uncomfortable Corzine was as a speaker [link]. Corzine was making those Katrina/Bush comments to appeal to his base, the rabid Howard Dean/Daily Kos crowd who he needs to turnout in November.
Given that not too many people watched this debate, most voters will get their impressions from the media coverage, so the spin from the MSM will be interesting. Let’s see if the Star-Ledger and the Bergen Record see it as Sharon, Enlighten-NewJersey and I see it, a net gain for Forrester.